Ted Continues Rant Over Edge Hill Service Station's Potential Demolition

Ted continues his rant over the potential demolition of the Edge Hill Service Station.  He sent us the following two links.

http://www.gazettejournal.net/index.php/news/news_article/enhancement_grants_approved_for_mathews_gloucester
is the first link.   Here is the second link.

http://www.gazettejournal.net/index.php/news/news_article/help_sought_with_grant  

We see issues with the stories at these two links, however, that has not been our focus.  We reported on the potential demolition of Edge Hill Service Station as we found documents on the Gloucester Main Street Preservation Trust site that clearly shows optional plans for the Stations potential demolition.

We did not create these plans, they are public on the GMSPT's site.  Ted is upset that these plans have been made public here.  His argument shouldn't be with us but instead the GMSPT who's plans they are.  So we are going to help Ted find his way as he seems rather lost.  What you need to do Ted is go to the GMSPT and get them to issue you a legal statement that they no longer back these plans if that is the case.  You will also then want to get them to update their site that shows they are no longer backing these plans if that is the case.

  You will then also want to find out if the GMSPT has filed these plans with the county.  If so, you will then need to do the same thing with the county and get legal statements to show that these potential plans are no longer being considered by the county.  Once you have done all of this, you may want to go to the paper and have them publish a story that the plans are no longer supported.  We have seen nothing that legally retracts these plans.  These are all current plans on the GMSPT site.  It's just wonderful that the Fairfield Foundation has plans for the site.  But that could be a problem for Fairfield that you really should address there Ted.

  Get back to us when you have completed all of these steps and are able to show that they are legal and not just hearsay talk.  See ya in about 6 months or so if you can ever get that done.  Hope that clears Ted's confusion.  We hate to see him like that.

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Gloucester, VA - Readers Continuing Responses On Edge Hill Service Station Slated For Potential Demolition

Readers Respond Again.

"Yes, keep it going. You display your ignorance and wild leaps of "logic" which time will show are at best confused. The station was painted white prior to being sold to the current owner who plans to upgrade the existing building and corner. This reality has nothing to do with a planning document ... say what you will about the planning document's merit ... it is not prescriptive. Not even the long arm of zoning can force a property owner to comply with a planning document. So, like I said, keep up the ignorance and people will gradually see that you have no idea what you are talking about. I particularly like your brazen posting of my previous message and you will probably do the same with this one ... I hope. Ignorance is not bliss. on Gloucester, VA - Readers Respond To Edge Hill Service Station Slated For Possible Demolition"

You claim the reality has nothing to do with a planning document.  The story was about the planning document and what those plans include.  You have not followed this site for any length of time and it shows in your comments.  We have been covering what, in our opinion, are blatant disregards for the laws here in the county.  We have been covering numerous issues for the past year now.

  It is our opinion that the county can figure out a way to force the present property owner to comply with plans the county wants to force through based on what we have already seen done throughout the county.  It is through exposure of what the plans are that helps to possibly prevent such actions.  Please read the headlines of that first story again.  Slated for POTENTIAL demolition.

  You use an interesting choice of words in your argument.  "Not even the long arm of zoning can force a property owner to comply with a planning document".  Gee, really?  The county can force a property owner into complying with a court order though can't it?  Zoning along with codes and compliance can condemn the structure if the county thinks it's in the best interest can't they?  The county can sure make the life of the present owner miserable if the county so chooses to can't they?

  You argue like a lawyer and most people would never catch that little deceptive description so well placed.  Well done.  Let's look at some other facts you missed.  "The building was painted white before being sold to the present owner."  Since then it has undergone exterior structural repairs, painted again to an off white or light tan color, has had numerous murals painted on it's side and other numerous work to create a rather pleasing facade.  Though on the one hand of the term it may not meet certain criteria for period restoration, on another hand, it meets restoration for the overall outer appearance from what it once was not that long ago.

  If you want to argue the article for what it is not, go ahead and knock your socks off.

  Let's see if we are on the same page here anyway.  We would rather not see the structure demolished.  Reason for exposing plans.  It's not our choice what happens to it though.  It's up to the new owner(s) to do as they see fit with the property.  It's not the place of the county nor the Gloucester Main Street Preservation Trust to interfere with any property owner anywhere in the county unless the property represents a serious public health issue.  At no time should  county officials or even the Gloucester Main Street Preservation Trust be involved in creating plans for private property.

  Answer that question while on the subject.  Why is the Gloucester Main Street Preservation Trust even looking at private property and making potential plans for it's use when it does not even have the right to?  Please edumakate this 1st grade graduit since you are so well informed with obviously deep inside knowledge and bursting with such illuminating brilliance so that we no longer linger in ignorance.

  In regards to the brazen posting of your comments.  You posted it on this site, not us.  All we do is make it easier for everyone to see and we try to respond to all comments.   We look forward to being illuminated.

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Gloucester, VA - Readers Respond To Edge Hill Service Station Slated For Possible Demolition

From one of our readers.

"Please keep posting stories like this. They prove that you have absolutely no idea of what you are talking about.

The restoration of the station has hardly begun with much work left. Check your facts before you post alarmist articles. I'm guessing you have not spoken with the owners ... they would have told you what is actually going on. "

Now this comment we find rather interesting.  It shows that the reader paid no attention as to where the concept of potential demolition comes from.  It came from the Gloucester Main Street Preservation Trust's web site.  The information is on a PDF and we have linked that PDF to this site on a previous post.  It is very very slow loading because the PDF is a huge file.  Whoever made the PDF didn't shrink the images on the pages prior to creating the pages.

  Look at the previous post.  The top image was shot in 2010 by us.  The second image is from 2012 and is used above.  Now look at the image of the service station that comes from the GMSPT site below.

The picture image from the PDF page that comes from the Gloucester Main Street Preservation Trust site shows a different look to the present look of the building.  The outside of the building has been restored from it's original condition.  Is it the inside that may not have been restored?  We are not interested in that.  If the building is up for rent, then it's up to the new tenant to put in whatever they want or need for their business.  The outside has been refurbished which is restored.  (Information from the GMSPT suggests the building can be used as a potential cafe, suggesting the building is up for rent).

  The demolition information is right in front of everyone.  You are looking at it above.  What exactly is alarmist about it?  What is the reader really trying to convey to us?  Look at 6.1.3 above.  It states remove the existing structure, referring to the Edge Hill Service Station.  This is not our information, it comes from the GMSPT site that anyone can read at any time.  

  These are part of the sub plans that have already been submitted to the Gloucester County Board of Supervisors and the Board has already passed a 7 to zero vote on accepting.  We have the video showing this as well.  Is the reader nervous about this information being made public?  The local paper sure didn't cover this.  We can post that video at any time as it comes directly from the Gloucester County Board of Supervisors.  

  It looks like we are making some people rather nervous by exposing what is really going on in the county.  So we are going to continue to expose these bad ideas so everyone knows what is going on.  Like we keep saying, what no one else is willing to cover.

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The top picture is of the Edge Hill gas station that had the call to save it before it's restoration.  The second picture is of the Edge Hill gas station with the restoration complete.  Now it's potentially slated for demolition by the ones who were involved in restoring it?  One plan is to try and make it into a cafe if they can get someone to rent it with such highly limited parking.

  Two other options are demolition and replacement with a new office or retail complex, again with no parking and the last option is to turn it into a water fountain.

Why was all the money put into restoring Edge Hill Gas Station only to turn around and now look at tearing it down?  Someone made money on the restoration work.  Someone is going to make money tearing it down and putting up something else.  Do we really need more bad planning?

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